The CWB Association hosted this year's annual CanWeld Conference in Moncton, NB. Join us as we bring you special episodes recorded in person to keep our members on top of what’s new and exciting in the steel and welding industry.
Let's get personal on a podcast takeover with special guest, Kevin Roy, a Journeyman Welder. Listen to his unique perspective on attending the CanWeld Conference for the first time and the importance of bilingualism within the welding industry. Ready to meet the faces behind these social media profiles? You'll hear our personal stories about connecting with fellow welders online and finally meeting them face-to-face, all while navigating the challenges and benefits of using social media for networking within our industry. Tune in and let's spark some conversations about welding!
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CanWeld Conference is all about bringing the welding, fabricating, and finishing industries together to increase the visibility of Canada's manufacturing heartland region and highlight different industries across Canada. Schedule the next event in your calendar: June 12th-13th, 2024 with Fabtech Canada in Toronto, ON! Are you interested in speaking at CanWeld? Check out the Call for Papers: https://www.cwbgroup.org/association/conferences
The CWB Association hosted this year's annual CanWeld Conference in Moncton, NB. Join us as we bring you special episodes recorded in person to keep our members on top of what’s new and exciting in the steel and welding industry.
Let's get personal on a podcast takeover with special guest, Kevin Roy, a Journeyman Welder. Listen to his unique perspective on attending the CanWeld Conference for the first time and the importance of bilingualism within the welding industry. Ready to meet the faces behind these social media profiles? You'll hear our personal stories about connecting with fellow welders online and finally meeting them face-to-face, all while navigating the challenges and benefits of using social media for networking within our industry. Tune in and let's spark some conversations about welding!
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CanWeld Conference is all about bringing the welding, fabricating, and finishing industries together to increase the visibility of Canada's manufacturing heartland region and highlight different industries across Canada. Schedule the next event in your calendar: June 12th-13th, 2024 with Fabtech Canada in Toronto, ON! Are you interested in speaking at CanWeld? Check out the Call for Papers: https://www.cwbgroup.org/association/conferences
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Speaker 2:Welcome to another edition of the CWB Association Welding Podcast. My name is Daniela Tarelli and I am here with Kevin Waw. I did that right and we are here recording in Moncton at the Canwell conference. As you can tell, I'm not normally in this seat. I'm normally the one behind the computer and the cameras and any of our guests that we've had on the podcast. You've seen my name and emails. I'm kind of the scheduling one, but we had an idea. You're like hey, you know what, max has done a lot of talking today and we have recorded some episodes. Max has recorded some episodes while we're here with some amazing guests, but he's done a lot of talking and today is day two of the conference. It's the last day and we thought, you know what, let's put a little spin on our guests and we are podcast takeover. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:We were like let's just create a new name for the podcast. I think we're going to call this the late night session, Even though it's like afternoon, it's not lunchtime yet, but nobody gets a little crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no one needs to know that. So this is the new segment of late night talks with Daniella. So take one. Not actually, but we, you know, I like stepping out of my comfort zone. I think it's great for everyone to kind of push their limits. And for anyone that knows me personally I am a chatterbox, I like talking. I am a rambler, a Italian, I like to talk, but to people I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And when I'm put into a new setting and being even though there's nobody watching us right now, it's nerve wracking. We have to do a few takes to kind of start off and, you know, do our spirit fingers and get into the move here in the groove, but it's nerve wracking being in the seat.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's very, very nerve wracking. You could be talking to anyone, like just just me, and you talking, everything's cool, and then you set up a camera and a camera and a camera and there's a mic in your face. It gets a little weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but I'm like you know what I this is something I personally want to work on is kind of putting myself out there and to grow, because we really, as individuals, we like to be in our comfort zone and unless somebody, unless there's an opportunity to kind of step out of that, we like to just stay in our lane.
Speaker 4:So Absolutely, and one of the reasons excuse me, one of the reasons why I'm here at Canwell is because I had an opportunity to do something different and push my boundaries a little bit. So I completely understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2:We're here for each other.
Speaker 4:Okay, it's a team.
Speaker 2:Team effort. We really believe in that and the association, our memberships, we and this is actually wraps into the theme of the conference, of the Canwell conference this year, and our theme throughout the year is joining communities through welding. We are all a community our association, our chapters, our memberships, the welding community as a whole. We're all here for each other right. So we're our support system. So I feel it here. I feel it here today, so this is why I'm in this spot. We were like Max, take a breather, you know, go relax for a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4:The guy never stops talking.
Speaker 2:He's good at it, he loves it and we, we value him, and I value him as a boss as well. So uh, can't talk any smack on here.
Speaker 4:You gotta take a few digs at the boss here and there.
Speaker 2:I get to, I feel like I am like in the control panel here and I have access to everything. And I'm just like whoa, I got all these cool buttons. You know, I'm just going to like, yeah, I get to do all these cool like little pun things, and so, yeah, it's uh, it's different being in this spot, but I'm excited yeah me too, it's different. Yeah, I mean, it's different. So we are going to talk a lot about Canwells, because that's where we are, and Kevin here is a first timer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, first time at Canwells. I really didn't know what to expect, uh, but I saw the opportunity to come out here because I heard a lot of great things through the association and you know the Canwells, the Fabtex, all these like great conferences, but never experienced it. So as part of me coming out here, um, I kind of committed to doing a little bit of social media stuff where, uh, I'm doing like kind of a mini podcast, interviewing people as soon as they come out of the sessions, kind of walking around and taking a little bit of behind the scenes stuff and um, yeah, so I also was able to uh present with Max, uh in the opening in French. So that was uh intimidating but at the same time like super rewarding, like we're pushing boundaries.
Speaker 2:And you know, obviously you know. Shout out to your social media channel, was it Kevin?
Speaker 4:R 306?.
Speaker 2:If you don't follow him, it's mandatory right now. You know I'm stopped listening closet for a second. Go, follow him and then resume this episode.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just to let you know, I I focus on welding. I'm not just the guy that shares the pretty weld. I like helping people, I like showing the process. Uh, that's what this community is about. Uh, it's it's just. I focus on welding and like, feel free to message me anytime. It's it's the community vibe.
Speaker 2:Yeah and uh, you'll also see your, see your face on our CWB group, uh, youtube channel. We've done quite a few welding videos, instructional videos, on our channel that Kevin does um for us and they're really great. What was the? The? Uh, the sessions called like the?
Speaker 4:it's a efficient and proficient. That's what it was the slogan yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a good title.
Speaker 4:That's a thing that I stuck with. It's like that's what employers want from you. You probably want that from yourself, like you don't want to bang your head up against the wall every time you're welding. So how? How can I be efficient? Well, you have to be proficient. You have to know your trade. You have to know your tools.
Speaker 2:It was catchy, it was catchy yeah.
Speaker 4:Boom, just like that.
Speaker 2:And that was that was kind of when it was a year ago when we started that.
Speaker 4:Well, the first round was like two years ago, oh yeah, yeah, which was another. Let's push some boundaries, like I had never done that before. Yeah, I can show a guy in the shop how to do it. Now there's some cameras. Yeah, now there's recording and it's. It's crazy. But yeah, two years ago I think was the first round.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was probably the first time we met each other personally in it. I have to say on a personal level. You know you follow people on social media. You never know how they're actually going to be in person. Yeah. And I have to say you are as humble as can be in person as you are.
Speaker 4:Thank you, yeah, as you are on social media so yeah, One thing I'll touch on is that some people on social media are characters of themselves Like they. They play a part on there, so it's kind of like acting and you meet them face to face and it's like you're like it's a dud. Like I thought I liked you, but no, we don't vibe at all. So I I'm myself on the page. It's you. When you're talking to me, you're talking to me, not not my alter ego.
Speaker 2:Just be kind. You know it's. We talk about it so many times in different episodes and on the floor and shop floors, and the welding community is so large but it's so small. We're a tight knit group and everybody knows everybody and you know it's sometimes we don't have to agree, you know, on a personal level or whatever it may be. But I'm still going to be respectful, I'm still going to be like. You know what. You're entitled to, your opinion, I don't need to agree to.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to argue on it. That's fine, but the community, it's very small, tight knit group and and I really appreciate even you know, and all the people that I've met, that I've followed on on Instagram and when I get to all these like Fabtech and the and the candle conferences and you meet people and it's just like it's so cool to see people that you've followed for years and they're inspiring to you in your career and then you meet them in person and you're just like it's chills. It's really chills when they're like the same person and it's like I was watching you on a screen yesterday and now.
Speaker 2:I'm here in person with you and it's the same person.
Speaker 4:Another big reason to come out to Canwell and I wasn't expecting that. For some weird reason, like okay, I show up here and I'm I'm spotting faces in the crowd, like hey, I know that person. And even like people that you know weren't registered but knew it was happening, popped up, popped down to the hotel lobby and, like Kendall Keating, he just walk it through the lobby. He's like, why do I know him? And he's like Kevin Kendall.
Speaker 1:Hey, hi man, how's it going?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like why I thought you'd be here. And then it was like Like instantly, like we're best friends. Yeah, oh yeah, because we've talked to each other for so long. But then you meet each other and it's like hey, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you almost forget that you haven't met in person. Yeah, exactly. I forget that all the time. Even you know from a virtual standpoint with work, and it's like you have these conversations with people on a virtual platform and you forget when you do meet them in person. You're like oh yeah, we've actually, this is our first time meeting. Yeah, it feels like I've known you for years, but it's our first time meeting.
Speaker 4:It's super cool. It takes a lot of the nerves and a lot of the pressure out of things because you don't, there's no like you know, there's no catch up, it's just we're just picking up from where we're left off, where we're just here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, absolutely. And I actually had an experience at in Fabtech in Chicago just recently, in September, and there was a young girl that when I first started my social media you know my welding career eight years ago I think I got on social media maybe six years ago, you know and one of the very first female welders I followed and at the time we bonded over that we both had Ranger Ford pickup trucks and she was obsessed with pink and she was a, you know, female welder and and I just happened to come across her on on Instagram and I don't want to butcher her name so I'm not going to say it right now, but you know who you are and finally, you know, over those six years of just being supportive on on Instagram, and finally got to meet her in person at the Fabtech and and it was just like, oh my God, like it warmed my heart so much because it was like, you know, we didn't actually know each other, but we've supported each other in our careers, and big time.
Speaker 2:We've just, you know, even just liking, simple as a simple as liking a photo, yep, you know. And being like, hey, a simple comment way to go so proud of you, that's amazing. Like those simple moments. We've remembered them in our career, right, and it doesn't matter whether it's a stranger off the street or you know it's, you know it's. It's so cool to have those moments and to meet people in person. So I have to ask, because it's one thing, and you know, I know it's like one thing when you're holding a phone in front of your face and you're talking to yourself, but you're talking to, you know, thousands of people, millions, whatever you know around the world and but you don't see them. So you're just talking to yourself here at our candle conference, you're talking to people from a phone, but they're sitting next to you and you have a microphone in your hand.
Speaker 4:Yeah so how's that?
Speaker 2:How is that?
Speaker 4:You know, part of me being here was um. I mean, I I kind of bullied my way in, but I agreed to he's on a trial right now. Yeah, exactly Trial period.
Speaker 2:This scene we'll see how he does.
Speaker 4:They're not on the beta version yet, so I've been interviewing people, uh, sitting them down and just kind of getting their opinions and a little bit of background on them. Um, it's, it's kind of difficult, to be honest. I don't want to say pulling teeth, cause some people are very into it, like absolutely we want to, we want to promote what you guys are doing, but some people I'll be talking to them for 20 minutes- we're yeah, we're, we're like really we have good rapport.
Speaker 4:Hey, do you mind just sitting down with me for five minutes on camera and just kind of saying say what we just said, but on camera, no thanks, right, try to stop people in the hallway. Hi, I'm Kevin. I'm doing some social media content for the CWB. I'm wondering if you could say a few words.
Speaker 4:Your face isn't going to get plastered on other platforms, yeah, and then it's like you know they at first they don't know who I am of course right, they can read my badge, but I'll see, see it's backwards. It's my oh. Look at that Right, and and they don't know my page. You know, like the, the Instagram fame that I have is on Instagram. You know people see my face right, but they don't know me, so kind of have to get in there, crack the knock, as Max says, and um, yeah, try to get them.
Speaker 2:I've noticed cause I mean you know, on your your name badge you have, you know, cwb on there I've noticed, you know, while we're passing each other in the hallways here at the conference, that people see that on your name date and then they start that conversation with you like, hey, I've never met you before, I don't recognize your face For some of the people, cause we have, you know, different ages here. Um, some that may never go on it on social media or don't aren't familiar with social media platforms, so they don't know you. But it starts a conversation right that they see your, your name page. You got a fancy CW, like oh, what do you do for CWB? And you're like well, let me tell you, it's actually like it's very fun being on staff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've done many things for the CW. You're going to hang this up in your room after I might put it in a shadow box, so you know, I'll make it, I'll make it fancy. Um, no, you're absolutely right. And even at breakfast, at lunch, uh, there's no seating assignment, so you go in there, you sit down with whoever's at the table and it's great. And I'm glad you mentioned, like, uh, the older crowd that does not have Instagram, social media. They, they don't care less, it's not something tangible. And then I sit down and I explain to them that it's it's a tool, it's a system, it's a community, and like we're way closer together than we ever were. They don't realize that, but it's, it's, it's great.
Speaker 2:I, I always tell people my, my grandfather shout out no, no, uh, he's in his late eighties and if he can figure out Facebook, you, anybody can. Yeah, like he lives for Facebook. He connects with everybody you know back home in Italy, sharing photos and and even on that front, like it's a great tool. Um, but I'm like if my grandfather, who literally would curse if he saw a phone on the dinner table, now after dinner, at meals, at family dinners, he's on his phone scrolling, I'm just like remember the days when he used to like hate on us or be on our phones.
Speaker 4:Don't show him tick tock. He'll never stop.
Speaker 2:I've noticed my dad, my dad's on tick tock and I'm like, wow, the tables have turned yeah.
Speaker 4:You know, it's funny like I have a little booth set up, a little mini podcast thing over here and, um, I interviewed Jason Becker for a little bit, but afterwards we're sitting down and um, uh, the engineering students from the U of A came over the CCRJ cornered you. Yeah, uh, ccwj, sorry, and um, uh, they're, they're, I guess, dr Patricio Mendes. He, he's a character, he's, he's a very, very smart man, anyways.
Speaker 2:So, I wish I had his energy. I really like I want a bottle of it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm just watching one of the videos that a student did, or the group of student did. Like eight years ago he heard the sound from across room. I know that sound. He came over, sat down, his students came over too and well, how'd you do that? So we were talking about social media and he's like, oh, I don't know about that stuff. And all of his students were like, well, the students have a page, we should get the lab a page. And me and Jason are just like pumping the tires, like you have to put that video on there. That's going to grow the eyes on you.
Speaker 4:That's going to grow the interest this is what, like youth are, are wanting to see out there. So yeah, social media is, is it's a beast, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's great also for you know any age range, but just that exposure you know, and it doesn't matter where you live and and um, it's to see, you know, when you live in your own small communities or you have the job you go to every day, you're nine to five, whatever it may be, that's all you see. But there's so many different welding processes, so many different things you can do with welding and like seeing these videos at companies and individuals post and it's just like your brain like starts expanding. You're like, oh my God, I didn't even know this was possible, or how did they achieve that? How did they that weld is so perfect, but how did they do that? And both you know like there's so many cool things that we don't get to see like in front of us on a daily, but we get to look at it and view it on on these social media platforms and and it's so exciting to see what's out there in the world.
Speaker 2:And and even you know, I'm so thankful for my job that I get to travel to these conferences and you know Fabtech and our can wilds and and because without that I would have never really traveled outside of Ontario, like I'd never really been many places but now I'm exposed to all the technology and the companies that are worldwide that I would have never looked at. Right. If it wasn't for these social media platforms and and being able to attend the actual conferences.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned that. You know somebody in a shop. They're doing like mig welding 90% of the time. That's all they're staring at, and that's one of the things that got me to become a better welder was. I got on Instagram and it's like holy, look at these welds. Like how are we doing that? I'm reaching out to people so like I wish more people would branch out like in their own cell. Don't branch out to me. Well, do, do, but like yourself, if you're bored of what you're doing at work and there's no opportunities to do anything else, like it doesn't mean you're stuck Like get on there, start following people that are doing the crazy stuff and, who knows, like you could learn that, that process or that style too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, absolutely. And like you know, one of the best things you know you don't have to get the most expensive welding machine you know. Go to your princess auto deep hole, whatever it may be. Amazon, amazon.
Speaker 2:Alibaba, whatever, whatever. But you know that was one of the best things I did in my career. It's been six years, I've got my welding machine and I still have it, even though I have a fan so I'm prettier one and a bigger one but I had this very basic $500 welding machine but just being able to practice at home and things that I couldn't do at work, and I was able to try different techniques at home and to help me in my career and just explore really like learn and exploring and finessing that.
Speaker 2:you know welding as a career and a craft really, so that really it's amazing exposure and you know I really can't express. You know that it's so important to attend conferences, whatever it may be, whatever level it may be. But our events are networking events. You know our chapters that we have host so many networking events across Canada and it's so important to have those opportunities and to attend them and to really value them and it's, you know, anytime we talk with students and it's like get out there, like network. I wish, I wish I would have done that earlier on in my career.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I wish, like right now it's, you know, the last three years with COVID really put people back Like, yeah, it set us back to. It set my chapter, the Regina chapter, back quite a bit. Yeah, you know, attendance was dwindling and now students are back in school and they don't know who we are because we've had that break. Yeah, so now we're getting back into the schools, but we don't only have to get back into the schools to reach the students, we've got to reach the instructors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the guidance counselor.
Speaker 4:Exactly, and it even starts before that, like high school, like we've. We've got to find those, those youths that they want to work with their hands, and we are the association to help you get to where you want to go and even help you figure that out. So it's um, yeah, I wish more people would, would reach out to us like we want to grow our attendance, we want to support as many people as we can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Absolutely. And even you know, when I went to school eight years ago, it's like I did a one year welding program, welding technique program, and I graduated and it was like you're okay, walk out that door. And the door closed behind me and it was like what now what?
Speaker 2:now? Like I didn't have a mentor, I didn't have somebody in my family that could help guide me, or you know, I just kind of was like okay, like I'm just going to try a bunch of and see what it's, yeah, so, but I wish I had somebody. You know that. You know I wish I would have knew about the association, or I wish my school at the time would have told me about this community and these volunteers that I could connect with. And and if I look back, and if I would have participated in a chapter event or if I would have reached out and known about it, my career would have been a lot different.
Speaker 2:It wouldn't have been as rocky or, as you know, I would have had some guidance you know and I, even though you know I, you can never change the past and I'm thankful for it. You know every you know windy road led me to where I am here today, but, but I think about that sometimes. You know and I and, but I can take that knowledge now and tell that generation now being like listen. We listen. Oh, that's on camera now.
Speaker 2:Listen, we have talked about this. I'm Italian. I talk with my hands a lot. I don't even know I do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was something that was brought up this week that I a couple of times a couple of times that I say listen, yeah, or yeah so, but listen, but seriously, though, listen, because when I say listen, I mean it Like I have something to say. So you know, if you're in high school, you know if you're thinking about welding, reach out to your local chapter, just connect, attend one of the events or listed on our website under each chapter page and, you know, get involved, because it it's a game changer. It really is. So let's kind of rewind. We're going to go back to talking about the conference. Yes, and you know kind of that point of you know being in person now and attending, because I've noticed you've attended some of the sessions. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And we touched a little bit about it, about the French speaking aspect of the conference, because you are bilingual.
Speaker 3:I am bilingual. Yes, I speak French. I was born in Seychelles, quebec, so it was very good for me. It's like a little challenge for me to speak French. I don't practice my French. I'm really, really terrific.
Speaker 4:It's a fun experience. Now we're back in English because I can see in your face what he's saying. He's throwing me under the bus.
Speaker 2:I've picked up some words. You know, Jean-Mapel, Daniela, we, we, we.
Speaker 4:It was good I shared the opening speech with Max and I mean we're in New Brunswick, moncton, new Brunswick, which is the only official bilingual province of Canada, so we wanted to recognize that and I wanted to step up and help out. So it was very rewarding for me and it was kind of a challenge because I I don't speak French every day, I don't practice French every day. You know, I learned to speak English when I was eight and then I learned to read and write my French, like in high school. So it was weird for me, but I'm glad that I still. I still have some still something in the tank.
Speaker 2:And I regret. I regret not taking French more seriously in high school. You know when it would. I was thinking cause like after a great tenets and elective, and I don't think I I pursued it after that. But man, if I would have known what I know now.
Speaker 4:But yeah, there was like I couldn't believe how many people here speak French 75% of the people that I was talking to taxi drivers.
Speaker 2:anything that we've been in, yeah.
Speaker 4:As soon as they pick up on some French we're switching the. French right, Like it's a respect thing, Like we know who we are and even at the conference, like presenters, attendees, suppliers, everyone here almost bilingual, but we're speaking French.
Speaker 2:And it was important to us. You know, here at the CWB it can't speak for the whole company, but I know it was important. That's why we did that is that we had French presentations, french speakers, you know, translating the openings ceremony and and you know, offering that, because we were bilingual province as well, but also Canada as a whole, and we, you know, we want to make sure we're an ally and that we're here for that. So it was great to see many faces that attended the French speaking sessions. So having that mix of of conferences and and sessions for our attendees was very important to us. So I'm glad that you were able to attend some anything specific that you've learned that in your sessions that you've attended.
Speaker 4:Honestly, it's just opened my eyes Like, again I'm, I'm a journeyman welder. I'm used to just staring at the arc fabrication and stuff. There are a lot of engineers here, a lot of technicians. So, seeing the science behind what I'm doing, how my shielding gas and the level of CO2 and the shielding gas can affect my penetration, my B profile, how automation, all like oh, the robots are stealing our jobs. Well, how automation, ai, laser cameras can actually not only improve your product, speed you up, but you have to hire people to like run these things. Yeah, you know, with doing my job, I wasn't able to drop in on a few, but I dropped in on a French one with Mets, your, who is an instructor at the CCNB.
Speaker 2:Are you guys related in any way?
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:He's my cousin 18 times removed.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh my God, you're the same last name. Like there's got to be a connection.
Speaker 4:No, like I think the statistic is that the Roa family is the third largest family in Quebec and we're not just in Quebec.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, no. And and I love, I loved hearing his, his presentation, because there's a disconnect now where the students are leaving school and they they're not hands on, they, they, they need a push, they need motivation. So he's built a program where you're taking welding, he's building inspectors also. But everything that he was saying is what I wanted to hear New technology, training on that. New technology supporting the students. And when they leave, they leave with tickets so they can go out there and get a job right away and they help them do that. I wish that more schools would like to focus on these programs and and help the kids all the way through.
Speaker 2:And even the other programs. You know the inspection side of it, supervisors, you know, outside of it too, offering more and more knowledge and programs like that for the students so that they know the different opportunities available, right? So, um, yeah, I know, I've I've we've had many conversations with him and we're really excited to do more here in New Brunswick and with him and the CCNB. So, um, you know he's such a great and that's what you need. You need those passionate people Like he has so much passion and and you know that was came up in conversation of so many people that they got not lost in their job. But you get comfortable, right, you get comfortable. You know those instructors that have been at schools for many, many years. They, you know it's your nine to five, you get comfortable.
Speaker 4:Even they need support. They need support from industry, they need support from government, they need support from the local community. It's not like we're not just throwing them under the bus. No, no, yeah.
Speaker 2:We need all of you. We do, yeah, but it's really great to see when they have that passion and it doesn't matter how many years you've taught for it Keeping that passion, because the students, you know, as soon as you have an instructor that is not passionate, and then those students don't get passionate and we, and then they'll do schooling and then they change their career after that, or they maybe last a year in the welding industry and then they just, you know, choose something else.
Speaker 4:Another statistic I heard is that, let's say, you have a class of 12 for those people. Five years later, we'll still be welders. The other ones moved on. So what's cool about this conference, though, is every single person here can't turn it off. The passion is like so strong. You feel it. Yeah, it happens in the sessions, it happens at lunch, it happens at closing, and then we're hanging out together, we're at the bar, and it's just it's still going like people love welding.
Speaker 2:Last night everyone was like listen.
Speaker 4:It was like two in the morning out on the sidewalk and we're still talking, so to bed.
Speaker 2:Like tomorrow morning, last day of the conference, you got to pace yourself. You know you can't go hard the first day or you know you got to pace yourself tonight. We're super excited. We have our VIP after party, sponsored by apprentice searchcom, and you know, tonight's the night to really let loose and have fun. But it's. But it's true, we literally it's not like we're standing out there and talking and you know about whatever, how it's a weather, we're talking about the industry, we're talking about welding, we're talking about pros and cons and how can we support each other. And we could have talked all night long. And it's, it's, you know, it's the passion you feel it.
Speaker 4:It kind of like brings me to the NAC meeting. So this was my first NAC meeting. So that's the national association right, Correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my advisory council. Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, see, can you tell it was my first, so it was kind of crazy to sit there and hear all the chapters that were present about the work they're doing, their successes, their downfalls, you know how, how they're supporting people, because you know we're kind of isolated as a chapter. But then you connect with all these people. Okay, you guys are doing a calendar and that's bringing you in money, and then you're using the money for scholarships to send people to school. Or you know there's another chapter I'm sorry I can't remember which one but they're really heavy with Skills Canada. So they provide funds to send people, to fund the hotels, to support that person the whole time. So all they have to worry about is doing good welds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, conestoga College does it Kitchen and chapter. We have some awards for the Skills Canada winners because it's you know what, they're young students and, yes, they get to travel and go to a national competition. You know what. We want to help relieve that financial burden as well. You know we don't want them to have to worry about how am I going to get there, you know, how am I going to pay for this. We want you to focus on your career. We want to focus, you know focus on the competition, the welding aspect of it, and it's really, you know, fulfilling to be able to support them as a chapter.
Speaker 2:So, for anyone that doesn't know the NAC, you know we meet twice a year and it's representative Only the chapter chairs, but sometimes you know they can't make it, so it's a representative from the chapter that comes and we kind of sit in a big round table and and we talk about what's going on, because you know, as we've talked about it's you know you get into your, you're in your own community, you don't know. You know sometimes you know, look at what's going on in the other provinces, right. So we kind of all sit down together we talk about what's what's working, what's not working with our chapter because we have different communities, different needs.
Speaker 2:You know different support systems that we need. So we, really we work together. You know we, even though we are across Canada, our chapters are in their own communities but as a whole, we work together from the national level. So, um, and so many great ideas, you know, came up in the meeting on Tuesday and, uh, I'm really excited for this this year coming up and uh, to see what the chapters accomplish and and and support in their communities. So, um, it's, it's a great thing. They meet twice a year and uh, and so many great ideas. And sometimes things aren't working and you know what we talk about it and, okay, how can we make this work? How can we move forward? So, um, it's really great. Chapters are doing amazing. I think last year we had 66 events across Canada tallied between all the chapters, which was like our highest number, and this year we're going to surpass that for sure.
Speaker 4:So everything's trending up, like membership and everything.
Speaker 2:So everything is trending up and uh, and it's great, because that's what you know we're here for right, and we want to get the word out. We want to be attending career free, as we want to, you know, be targeting the youth and and really supporting the welding industry and building the next generation. So we're going to keep talking about this, but we're going to pause right now for a break for our sponsors and our advertisers. You know, without them, as a not for profit, um, without our our advertisers, sponsors and industry to help support us, we can't do all the cool things that we get to do. So we're going to take a short break, don't go anywhere, and we'll be right back here on the CWB association welding podcast. Max, I do that right, be right back.
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Speaker 2:Welcome back here on the CWB association welding podcast. I'm here with Kevin Wa, we're here at Ken Weld conference and monk to new friends and we've been having. I've been watching the time here and I'm like damn we've been talking pretty long here.
Speaker 4:It's just so good. I mean, depending on the editing, they're going to see the beginning of this. They're going to be like what is it? What is it late night with Daniella? What are we doing here?
Speaker 2:We recorded three hours to get 30 minutes, but it's great. You know we've had all week, we've had some really great conversations and talking about your role. We've, you know, talking about your role today and you know, out of the sessions that you've attended and our gala that we had last night, what's been your, your favorite part of the week so far.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's not, it's not cheesy to say, but like the networking, the meeting of everyone, like Every single person I talk to, is interesting and they're interested in what I have to say. Like from engineers, technologists, welders, suppliers, everyone is just super excited here. So like the vibe is really strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's been a lot of knowledge sharing and anyone that I've talked to, and even our attendees and even our sponsors. You know our sponsors have their exitor tables there for our attendees to walk around and to network and they've got their products on our tables and their sharing ideas. And it's been really positive to hear from the sponsors of how many connections that they've made while they've been here at Canwells and you know demos already set up for in the area and they've already made so many connections and that they need to follow up with. And so it's been really positive to hear that, yes, you can attend these events but if you just stand in the corner you're not going to get the full experience. You know we tell everybody go network, go walk around the tables, go talk to go sit at a different table. You know there's breakfasts or lunches, we have our breaks, go sit at a different table. So it's been really positive and I'm really glad of the responses that we've had so far about the experience.
Speaker 2:So we're going to have a survey. You know we'll review, but and we're looking forward to now you know it was the last day of the Canwell conference. Sessions are still going on right now. But it's like, okay, once one's done now, let's look at next year. And so next year, you know, it's going to be tied again with the Fabtech Canada in Toronto, which is going to be fun because then it's you know, even a bigger audience, which is exciting. But then, you know, canwells, we like to move it across Canada, we want to move it around because there's so many different industries in every province.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a big thing, like from coast to coast to coast. It changes. Yeah, absolutely, it absolutely changes. So when are you guys coming to Regina?
Speaker 2:I was going to ask you.
Speaker 4:We've got a really nice conference center. There's a hotel right there.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm surprised, max, as Max is, you know, our host, as everyone knows from listening to our podcast episodes. Max is very proud of where he lives and in Regina, and I'm surprised that he hasn't just made his own event, being, like everyone, cup.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, yeah, it shouldn't be like preferential treatment. He probably doesn't want to step on any toes.
Speaker 2:No, no, yeah, he wants it to be big.
Speaker 4:We've got diverse industries, so and there's a lot of like welding professionals there.
Speaker 2:So I've never, I've never been. So tell us a little bit about what industries are in your neck of the woods, and well, we've got mining, we've got custom fab, we've got grain industry.
Speaker 4:There's huge manufacturing. I don't want to mention any names. I don't pump any tires, I don't need to.
Speaker 2:But for somebody that you know what. Maybe, as a fellow Ontarioan that I know that everyone you know I've growing up I can totally admit that all you're told is it's really cold there. Don't move there. You don't want to. You don't want to there's nothing out there, you could. If you lose your dog, you can see him, you know you run away for two days you can see him run away, that's all.
Speaker 4:I can see him run away for two days so you know, I, I, I thought the same thing moving there. I've been there for 23 years now, which is crazy to say, but the nicest people, so welcoming. It's not as flat as you think. There is a lot of beauty in Saskatchewan, especially in the skies, because you can see so much of it.
Speaker 2:Well, isn't there something about the lakes that you guys have? We have the most lakes in all of Canada, out of any province.
Speaker 4:I didn't know that you just have to go north Saskatchewan, which even there there's forestry.
Speaker 2:So there's mountains, I think, because there's some hills.
Speaker 4:There's some large hills that they call mountains.
Speaker 2:I was trying to tell Max I'm like, you know, we've got some mountains. We've got Blue man, we've got some other mountains here in Ontario and he's like we've got the same hills too, yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, to us they're mountains, but you know, you go more out west there's, there's some big mountains.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so yeah, we also have a steel plant there, so we actually produce steel out of vagina and it goes all over Canada. There's tons natural gas, there's oil, there's pretty much everything you could touch on. Welding Like welding touches everything, while in Saskatchewan it definitely does.
Speaker 2:Yeah and see like as as ignorant Ontario and that I don't. I never knew that, like without having these conversations, I would have never known that about that area. So we'll see if Canwell's 2026 or no, so 2025.
Speaker 4:Hopefully 2025.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 2024 is in Toronto, and 2026, I'm sure, will be somewhere around the west west coast. But so I'm guessing you're putting your vote in for.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah, that's going to be like every answer on the survey Regina, regina, regina.
Speaker 2:Where you know, camel Conference is going to come across Canada and at some point in some year it will be in your neck, your neck of the woods. So, you know, make sure you keep in touch with our events that we do every year and if the opportunity persists to attend, you know, please make sure you do. And coming from from work, from your neck of the woods, and coming here, because you're here for the whole week, how, how was that going? How was that transition of? Are you been checking your phone? Is work, blowing up your phone being like we need help or because yes.
Speaker 2:Tell everyone your role at work, because so that they know the position you're in.
Speaker 4:I am the foreman of a custom fab shop. We do repair, we do structural, we do pipe, so we're we're very diversified. I see 15 to 20 guys. I oversee 15 to 20 guys, you know, given if we're busy or not. So it's. It's very different from welding. It's very different. It's it's gauging people's skill sets, given, you know, attitudes, finding where people fit best on projects, and then also dealing with their personal relationships with each other. And then you've got the office. So you got to deal with the office. It's kind of like I'm in a sandwich. I'm right in the middle, so I'm the filter of the shop, I guess. But being foreman, I don't weld as much as I like to, and I love to weld. It's my passion.
Speaker 2:But you got more responsibilities.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah Big time If something goes wrong and it went through me. I'm also quality control at my shop, so I have to sign off on everything, so it it gets stressful. Also, safety I'm in charge of the safety. I wish somebody would step take some of these responsibilities off of me.
Speaker 2:I guess you're just so good at it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean I'm very passionate and I love. I love what I do, but also being foreman takes me away from the special projects. So I've got a little system set up where I work a few evening shifts on custom stuff and I'm more of an artistic guy and I love the finicky things. I, you know, build handrails, custom stairs. I've been doing some sanitary piping, which I've never done before and really enjoy it. And just before I left here I'm welding together some stainless steel countertops Saw that.
Speaker 4:Huge challenge. It takes so much to do it.
Speaker 2:It's like your little welding cart. Yeah, this is all you need.
Speaker 4:It's quite a bit, but that was a thing goes back to the community. I reached out to a bunch of people and then I got some settings, got some ideas yeah. It was great and even when I come back, I got to jump into that job and somebody from Saskatoon reached out to me and it's like I do this for a living. I would love to give you some input. I would love some input. I do it, okay, I would love to do it better Right.
Speaker 2:So how can you grow?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's kind of cool. I lost welding during the day, but now I get to do special things, so there's always an avenue. Welding goes everywhere, right.
Speaker 2:I honestly don't know how you do it all in a week Like you're a family man. You're a beautiful family that you've got there and your wife is awesome oh she's definitely awesome. Have the pleasure of meeting her and you know it's just all these things that you do and the hours that you work. It's impressive. But you also got to make sure you know you take care of yourself.
Speaker 4:It's give and take and like okay. So I'll go like a month straight working 60 hour weeks and stuff, and there's a reason I do it Right. I like to provide Absolutely. It has to be a balance. But all of a sudden, like body shuts down, why am I sick? I got a giant headache Like I didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:Worst time ever.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it's like it's Wednesday. I should be at work right now. I don't have any sick days, I but I'm definitely starting to find that balance. I think I've mentioned balance on every podcast that I've been on and I haven't found it. Haven't found it. We're close people. Maybe next year. We're close. Yeah, we're very close.
Speaker 2:We're going to do podcasts every year. We'll see if that balance got better.
Speaker 4:Especially my kids. Now they're in Taekwondo. They're doing like a young engineers course, one guy's in a Lego course, so that takes time and like, okay, I'm working Tuesday and Thursday nights pretty consistently. We'll Taekwondo on Tuesday and Thursday nights, so I've been telling work like sorry, I can't, so we're getting there.
Speaker 2:It's yeah, but so how was it for you to come here Now? You have to take a whole week off work. You're away from your family, you're away from the shop as a foreman. How was that transition to come here?
Speaker 4:It's hard to leave. I mean just a small personal story. Unfortunately, my son was sick. He had appendicitis, so I had to take a week off and we had to stay in the hospital with him. He wasn't old enough, right. So my wife and I traded back and forth and so I used up my vacation pay. So I'm here unpaid. So that was hard, but I think it's worth it.
Speaker 2:And especially I know, I know it's worth it, but it's hard.
Speaker 4:It's hard to leave because we've got so many projects on the go and some of the guys need a lot of guidance and we have a few that go on the road. So when those more experienced guys go on the road, there's nobody in the shop to guide the younger, less experienced one. So that's always on my mind and you were saying actually I've received a text from work every day that I've been here, but it's OK.
Speaker 4:Like it's more than fine, that's right. And like I'm not going to be like, well, you know, screw them. No, I'm I'm passionate about my work, I'm passionate about my workplace. They support me, I support them. So, yeah, just took a quick little text, whatever, and one guy blew up the TIG torch. So what's the part numbers? Can I fix it? So, ok, what line did you break? Oh, you can fix that one, you can't fix this one. And then I get a text you know like, oh well, we need to order another one. Ok, hold on. Went on Canada welding supply Boop boop boop Found it right.
Speaker 2:So yeah, shout out. Shout out one of our podcast advertisers. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4:And it was that easy for me to do it, so I didn't mind doing it. But TIG torch blows up. Two days later there's a new one.
Speaker 2:Well, this is where we also go back to the passion. Like you don't turn it off, doesn't matter. Somebody reaches out to you asking you a question about anything like it's, we're always on. We always because we want to. We were there to help, support and it doesn't matter if it's in your job or on social media or whatever it is. It's that passion, it's 24 seven. Like I could, I could talk to anybody off the street about welding. Like it's I'm and I can get you about it Like I love it.
Speaker 2:But, but how and I hear about this so you know, so many times over the years it's like people that it's like, oh, I wish I could attend because you know, but I'm too busy working or I'm not allowed to take time off to go these conferences and these networking events, and during work hours.
Speaker 2:And and do you have any suggestions that you know as an employer? You know a system or something that should be maybe mandatory yearly for companies so that their employees can advance and also, you know their careers, and also to take this knowledge that they would learn at these events back to their shop, back to their companies, and be like, hey look, we're doing something A, b and C this way, but I learned it's more efficient to do A, b and C or this, this direction, and you know we're doing it wrong or this is something we can improve on. But sometimes, even like the you know, the younger generation, they don't get those opportunities from work because, whether they're new at a company or they're just newer in their years of the career that they're in. And but what's something, some suggestions that maybe you could offer, from a personal note of you know, to the employers of what they should offer their employees.
Speaker 4:An opportunity. Like I didn't know how mandatory yeah, I didn't know how how cool it would be to come out here and what I would learn and the people I would meet and like it really lights a fire under you, but I think it's mandatory like at least one person, or have a plan to send somebody, anybody, to get that information to network, because you never know what could come from that and you leave here way smarter than you came. So I think employers need to look at putting a budget aside. And yeah, there are some small companies. There are some huge companies. Not everybody has the budget.
Speaker 4:Right, but maybe like, throttle back on the pizza parties and put that money towards sending somebody to a conference or to a course. Get some training Absolutely. We can't always be doing the same thing with the same equipment, because eventually you're going to get phased out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, and sometimes you know, as you were saying that, the issues that have been happening at the shop while you're here, it's like, well, you know what? You weren't there, but you know TIGTORCH blew up, whatever it is, they learned with your guidance even though, like, you weren't in the shop physically. They now learned with your guidance of how to fix that. So if it does happen again, now you're like, hey, I've already taught you how to do this now. Now you can.
Speaker 4:Even speaking with people here, like I've learned about different managing styles and what I could do better. And like you open up about yourself and people give you feedback, so like maybe I do need to trust people more to do it themselves.
Speaker 4:Right, I mean some people it's going to go sideways. But, like you know, I used to be that guy. I'd fix every piece of equipment in the shop. I know where everything is in the shop. Well, what happens when I'm gone? So I need to pass on that knowledge, that those little things, and that frees me up. I'll maybe deal with less stress.
Speaker 2:I feel like I have control issues. I will, I will admit that I am like.
Speaker 2:OCD, where it's like if I don't do it, it's not going to get done properly. And sometimes it's hard and I'm thankful for you know I was a. I just sat down as a chapter chair of the Kitchener area and shout out to Jackie Morris, she's our new chair and she's going to do amazing and I'm super excited to where she's going to lead the chapter. But you know I took on the chapter chair role. I did it for two years and that was a new. It's a volunteer position as a member of the CWB association. But it was a learning curve of, you know, delegating to the other executive board. And did I do it? Well, probably not, but but it's still I.
Speaker 2:It was another challenge for me growing as a, you know professionally, of learning to delegate the, the tasks that we needed to do to thrive as a chapter as a whole. You're not just one person in the community. You know we're all here to help, support and to guide everybody. But, yeah, it's. It's sometimes moments like those where you're here physically and you're, like I, physically can't be in the shop helping those people. But it's good those instances that they can learn on their own and to grow as an individual. Because, yeah, sometimes, you know, we get stuck in our own ways and we're like I'm just going to go do this, I got to run here, I'm going to go do this, and it's like okay, actually you could do it. Like.
Speaker 2:I know you could or and if you can't, well, hey, what training do you need to?
Speaker 4:learn to do that Right and like, sometimes you get so busy you don't have the chance to train somebody, so sometimes you do have to send people away and go do that or empower somebody to do it, because it's yeah, days are crazy. Yeah, I could come back to you. It went very well and people are doing great and people have grown. Like we just talk for the buildings on fire.
Speaker 2:Fingers crossed for you. The building is not on fire. We're going to sit on the news later today.
Speaker 4:Sorry, jr's welding and Regina Saskatchewan, we do everything. Come check us out, we're not on fire.
Speaker 2:Your work is so amazing it's Maybe I should do it. Wait, I should do it by the boom.
Speaker 3:Oh nice, do you have the peep, peep, peep, peep, peep?
Speaker 2:peep, I don't know which one it is. Oh no, that was some jazz music going on. I'm just going to be pressing all these buttons, max, but yeah, and this was also a thing for me too it's like, max, I'm now going to take over the podcast today.
Speaker 4:I don't know if you need any more on your plate, though, right I?
Speaker 2:don't, I really, I really don't, but this is fun. This was a cool challenge for me too. You know my first one, you know Max had me on the podcast before. Actually I even worked for him which is funny that we look back in those moments earlier on in the early podcast. And then I was on the 100th episode and that was my first time really behind the microphone with Max, and it's nerve-wracking when your boss is like watching over you when you're doing something new. Yeah, but this you know, and I went on that 100th episode I had a full script written out, I typed it on Word document and I was like trying to like try not to freeze up and I must have said you know, you know, you know, like 100 times. But even from that moment, on a personal note, just I'm going to throw do a little with this as my second time doing this Like I feel more comfortable now it's still still was nerve-wracking.
Speaker 4:The more you do something, the better you get the more comfortable you are at it right so.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 4:And I would say there's nothing to worry about, until there's something to worry about, if you keep telling yourself that, well, there's really nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I say this all the time to anyone I talk to and my favorite, all time saying I need to get tattooed on me. It's a feel the fear and do it anyway. You know, like it's, anything is nerve-wracking. You try something new, new skill, new trade, new career, whatever it may be in any, any age aspect of your career. It's always nerve-wracking. But you just got out, you know two feet and just jump right, yeah, if you never push past that fear, you never grow.
Speaker 4:And then as soon as you do that thing, like I just did, that, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely Just a way better person after this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I'm really happy, I'm really glad that your first candle experience has been a success and we're going to sit in some more sessions this afternoon after this podcast where my tummy is grumbling, I'm getting hungry for lunch yeah. Lunchtime. We might have almost missed lunch, but this was worth it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know, like we'll see after my stuff that I filmed that gets edited, maybe they're going to be like maybe you should have been out there.
Speaker 2:If you don't see Kevin at the next event, you know why he did not pass the 30 day trap.
Speaker 4:Yeah, maybe I need training. I might need a little training.
Speaker 2:Max, we need to order some training for Kevin. No, this has been great. I'm so glad you were able to come out, and even me like I'm excited. I've never been to Monkton before. It's really cool you know these conferences. Yeah, To be able to experience these other provinces across Canada. So I'm really excited and I've never been to Regina before, so you know I might have to put a vote for you.
Speaker 4:You should, I mean you know Max will make it worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm super excited. Thank you so much for doing this with me.
Speaker 4:Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 2:I'm glad we were our support systems here. Yeah, and you know, shout out to our listeners and our followers and our volunteers, our members. You know I am a member as well, personally, and you know, even before I started working for the CB association. So you know, shout out to you guys because you really you know where you're, you make us awesome and you do so much cool stuff in your communities and we wouldn't be here without you. So, yeah, thank you so much to our sponsors and to our advertisers, also here on the podcast and, and you know all the conferences and events that we do throughout the year, make sure you keep downloading, sharing, commenting, liking our podcasts. You know I really try my best. It's, it's a pleasure of mine that I get to be the one you know behind the computer finding these guests and reaching out to them, and it's, it's a cool part of my job personally as a podcast manager. It's a title I gave myself.
Speaker 4:It's a good title. Now you're also host, so that's two things yeah.
Speaker 2:We might have to do a vote to kick back. Sorry, max, I'm taking over, but it's easier because I know you right. So it's, it's. It's. You know what? Max has an amazing skill that I've been fortunate to experience it of. You know all the conferences that we've gone to and and he could talk to anybody. He's got the gift of gab he has a gift and sometimes I have to be like, okay, let's send Max Like we got to, we have a schedule.
Speaker 4:We got to go.
Speaker 2:Like you stop talking. But but he, you know, and that's the passion when we come back to it. It's a passion. He's so passionate about the industry and and you know throughout his career and and all the work that he's done, because he's from industry and he really resonates with everybody and that's you know, you can feel the passion when you talk with him. So, um, he does a great job of it. Nobody could take his role.
Speaker 4:It's but he doesn't finish his podcast with a. Please listen to the podcast, That'll be your thing.
Speaker 2:Late night session with Daniela Listen. It's my slogan oh my God. Well, thank you so much again, you know. Comment download and share. And next year it's in June, June 11th, I believe Canada and our candle conference will be in Toronto, Ontario. Make sure you have the opportunity to come out to it. Put in your calendar right now so you can prepare. Yeah, Start bugging you If you don't have a calendar start bugging your employer. Yeah, start bugging you. If you don't ask, you won't get it.
Speaker 4:So the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Speaker 2:That's the same. So, uh, we will see you at the next episode and, uh, hopefully meet in person at the next Camel conference. Thanks a lot. Thanks so much, kevin. Take care and enjoy the show. Bye, we hope you enjoy the show.
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